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B: Xfx 5870 > Gtx 570/580

Af Giga Supporter Denuush | 30-04-2011 18:12 | 2201 visninger | 22 svar, hop til seneste
Er der nogen der er intre i at bytte?
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#1
TobySkov
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30-04-2011 18:14

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Trådens navn forvirrer lidt. Tænkte at du foretrak 5870 over de 2 andre. Er du interesseret i at bytte dit 5870 til et af de to, eller omvendt?
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McVroom
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30-04-2011 18:51

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#1 Der står i overskriften at han vil bytte sit 5870 til et GTX570 eller et GTX580.. Hvordan kan det forvirrer dig?
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#3
Denuush
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30-04-2011 18:57

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McVroom er du nu sikker? Nu bliver jeg selv i tvivl -_-
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McVroom
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30-04-2011 19:27

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#3 Du har sat en pil. B: 5870 -> GTX570/580
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#6
Denuush
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30-04-2011 19:32

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Det var ironisk skrevet:P SØger stadig!!!!!
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#7
e-gamer
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30-04-2011 19:48

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Just a tip ... reference GTX 480 + Peter: http://www.youtube.com[...] = performance of GTX 570 + better acoustics ... probably for the same price as GTX 570. P.S. And later you could let me know if it`s worth to buy Peter as i`m kinda horny about it :D P.S.II HD 5870 = GTX 570 ... why do you want to swap for 570? I was lately thinking about changing my 5870 ... but only for HD 6970 or GTX 580 to gain some fps.
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Denuush
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30-04-2011 20:07

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Czesc kurwa :D The reason i want to change its because my mobo is Nvidia And it looks better :D + i am thinking of SLI in the future http://www.legitreviews.com[...] you know?? The Peter cooler is crazy.. i thought it was impossible to mount 2 big fans on a gfx big alpenfrön made it possible \o/ i know that 5870 is the fastest single card gpu but it is bugging me ATI with 120hz screen. isnt good :S Because it downclocks itself to 167/300 in idle. so my 120 hz screen can't handle it, + the cooler gets 50% on startup, so i have to adjust in msi afterburner ORE > i could bios flash my card and change the settings. but i had enough trouble with this card.. i'd rather buy a nvidia and not have to be worried for those problems.
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#9
Denuush
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30-04-2011 20:17

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W twoim profilu jest napisane, ze mieszkasz w Fyn, nie grasz w CS-a na BF2 nieprawdaz? Poniewaz spotkalem kolesia z polski mieszkajacego w Fyn i grajacego na serwerach CSMODS.pl ?
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#10
e-gamer
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30-04-2011 20:20

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Oh shit, 50%? Mine runs @ 21% ... and i have downclocked speed by flashing BIOS and setting the standard speeds to 800/1250 MHz :D I could send you my BIOS if you want. 157/300 in 2D is OK, that`s a nice option (less heat, not much noise) - mine does that too. I have also 120Hz monitor and no problems with 5870. Which drivers do you use? Mine are 10.2, the new ones are kinda shitty. P.S. Don`t use MSI Afterburner (uninstall it) ... it fu*ks with the clocks and makes a lot of troubles. EDIT: CS - no, it`s not me ;) FPS`s that i play: 1. America`s Army 3 2. Arma II
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e-gamer
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30-04-2011 20:22

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How did you manage to write # 9? :D
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Denuush
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30-04-2011 20:33

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What is your idle temps + game temps? what is your voltage of the card? because your card is vapor-X and mine is XFX (2 difference reference) I read that some people manage to get 32c in idle ?!?!?! i have to put my 5 case coolers gfx fan for 80 to get 38 :S with voltage 1.16 150/300 is not ok in 2D, because my screens "flickers" (updating screen) so it gets a bump like the screen is tossed up and down from ceeling. very innoying! i need to have 300/300 minimum in my settings to keep my 120hz im using 11.4 (the newest i think) ok i just thought it was u.. i am good at speaking polish murzyn.. i told u before.. :)) + i have many polish friends :D i was actually going to budgyzcz(?) the 28th of may with 2 of my polish friends, but now i am not:(
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#13
Denuush
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01-05-2011 09:44

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kurwa wyglat tematy :D i need your help on this one:)
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#14
e-gamer
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01-05-2011 12:06

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Hi, nowadays idle @ 38 (21% fan speed - 890rpm) - 2D voltage 0.95, but during winter 33 :) In games with 1.163 voltage about 75 with 100% load. And i`m using 10.2 because with 10.4 and later drivers in 2D mode the card was, from time to time, "jumping" on 850/1200. With 10.2 i have 157/300 all the time in 2D - that`s fine for me. So you won`t like my BIOS as it use the 2D 157/300 speed :(
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Denuush
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01-05-2011 14:41

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Ok, thank you I think i will make my own bios then :)
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#16
Denuush
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04-05-2011 16:48

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Er stadigvæk intre i at bytte!!
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#17
las
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04-05-2011 17:02

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#7 Ehh, youre saying 5870 equals 570 in performance? I hope not, because thats BS. 5870 is nowhere near the performance of 570. 570 GTX is also faster than 6970 up to 1920x1200. Especially after OC. 570 OCs higher. So saying you don't want to upgrade to 570, but 6970 is fine, is a little strange since you're running 1080p -.- Also; 570 OCed > 480 OCed. 570 is better in shader intensive games like BFBC2, DiRT2 etc
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Denuush
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04-05-2011 17:03

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#17 Jeg spiller ik 1920x 16xx max
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#19
Uno
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04-05-2011 17:26

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http://www.fudzilla.com[...] las, easy now... "nowhere near" ....in other tests its max-20-25fps more than a stock 5870.
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#20
las
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04-05-2011 17:40

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#19 Try looking at the next pages http://www.fudzilla.com[...] http://www.fudzilla.com[...] http://www.fudzilla.com[...] http://www.fudzilla.com[...] Thats a pretty big difference to me. And thats at stock, these cards have a major oc headroom and scales very well with OC I didnt say 5870 is a bad card, but saying its close to a 570 is not true
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#21
Uno
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04-05-2011 18:14

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look at the game benchmarks, max 20-25 behind, and min 8 fps...that not bad for a card thats 1 generation behind and competing with the newest from nvidia! You just wrote nowhere near the 570....thats if there was a constant 50fps difference... :D i dont see the 25 fps difference as nowhere near!
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#22
las
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04-05-2011 18:47

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#21 Whatever dude. It's pointless to discuss this with someone who have 5870 and trying to protect it. DiRT2 is like 30-45 fps difference. Whats your point.. 8 fps? The percentage is what you should be comparing. 8 fps is a pretty big difference when we are in the already low fps zone. Try firing up BFBC2 1080p all maxed and you would see the 5870 going down and the 570 still deliver around 100 fps. The 570 can even deliver that fps with 32xCSAA
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#23
e-gamer
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04-05-2011 20:25

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# 22 http://www.techpowerup.com[...] http://www.tomshardware.com[...] http://www.anandtech.com[...] 8fps ... +-59 fps vs. +-66 fps in BF BC 2 makes no difference at all. And you could probably find some games where 5870 gets more fps than GTX 570 (Crysis, F1 2010), so you cannot say that "5870 is nowhere near the performance of 570." I`m not a 5870 fanboy (i`m aware of gpu`s progress) ... GTX 580 is on my mind, but first i need to find out which one is the most silent: DirectCU II, Twnin Frozr II, Phantom or reference with Alpenfohn Peter + Noctua NF-S12B FLX :) @ 600rpm. P.S. @ las - is it possible to have totally passive WC on gpu (which will be stressed a lot) with acceptable temperatures? Or maybe with fans running @ 400-500rpm - isn`t it too low speed? Which fans - how many rpm - have you installed on radiator to chill gfx`s?
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