det ser da meget fornuftigt ud, ville personligt have valgt nogle andre brands og 1/2¨ ID. men det er en smagssag og tror ikke støre tubing vil gøre så stor forskel har ikke prøvet 3/8¨. :) det er en stor pumpe til det loop, du har måske tænke dig at opgrader til gpu mm.? måske en mod top for nogle flere muligheder som fx. http://www.bitspower.com.tw[...] med http://www.bitspower.com.tw[...] ser også lidt bedre ud syntes jeg det vil også være godt med en nem måde at dræne systemet på som fx. en tap eller quick disconnected har du planlagt tubing ruten? hvor vil du placere din radiator?
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#1 har tænkt mig at placere den i toppen eller i bunden alt efter hvad der er nemest jeg har valgt den pumpe pga jeg nok skal opgradere til en anden gpu om noget tid som sagt ved jeg ikke så meget om vandkølig da det er første gang jeg skal købe og sætte det sammen så hvis du har nogen gode råd om hvordan jeg kan lave et godt loop og om de ting som jeg har på min købs liste er gode nok ;)
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#2 den vigtigste regel med tubing routing, går altid fra reservoir til pumpe, men det ved du nok godt. bevæg dig helst i en cirkel, og med den korteste afstand imellem dine komponenter. Dit kabinet eger sig godt til at føre tubing bagved, da det har så godt plads. Har ikke hørt så meget om Phobya til resevoirs. personligt ville jeg gå black eyes til radiotor. personligt ville jeg købe Noctua HT-h1.
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Today there are amazing air coolers and graphic cards with great coolers so WC is not needed, and spending f.e. 3000kr. to have GTX 760 OC`ed will be a nonsense ... because you could add those money (that you want to spend on WC) and buy GTX 780 ... which will be faster than that GTX 760 OC`ed and probably more silent. Unless ... you want to also buy some high end graphic card ... and maybe you do it because you are OC maniac, i have no idea what`s the reason. Up to your priorities = have you determined them?
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#4 Water = Massive OC/overvolting and very low noise (both idle and load). It's not cheap tho. But I guess this is why some ppl go with WC still..
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#5 Low noise = +-500rpm (but personalized) = using those fans on WC ... won`t give you proper cooling? And ... low noise is opposite to ... low temperatures (OC), so the question is ... how effective is WC. Overvolting = due to low temperatures, cpu don`t mind if an air cooler or WC sits on it ;) etc., etc. ... that`s why i ask about his priorities :)
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#6 Yes it will :) I'm currently running an i7 3770K @ 4.5 GHz and 2x 670s @ 1320/1800 on 280mm + 240mm rads with all fans at ~500rpm/5v and pump at lowest speed (inaudible) Actually putting my fans to 12v and turning up the pump speed dosnt give me much better temps. My build is focused on low noise (low rpm fans @ low FPI rads). But good custom WC aint cheap. Air cooling can be fine, but it will ramp up fans during load, especially on GPU(s) and limit oc potential. WC is very effective.
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#6 vil give #7 ret, mindre rpm betyder nødvendigvis ikke dårlig performance, low profile fans og red er også nok til det setup. fans afhænger også af hvad man syntes der er højt og lav støjniveau. personligt synes jeg 700-1200rpm er fint nok - #2 pumpen er ligt meget over kill til dit system, selv hvis du smider blocks på chipset, ram, en rad mere + det du har, er den pumpe stadigvæk mere en rigeligt. :)
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#4 gider desværre ikke at have aircooling da det lamer mere og det er jeg træt af så nu vil jeg gerne have noget ordenligt køling i mit nye Corsair 900D så skal have købt noget vandkøling til min nye i7-4930k som skal overclocked vil nok sætte rad i toppen resten vil jeg nok lige tænke over har lavet en ny liste som jeg vil tro passer sammen så hvis der er en som lige vil være sød at tjekke det vil jeg bruge glad http://prntscr.com[...]
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#8 køber kun den pumpe så jeg altid kan opgradere mit loop i fremtiden ;)
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ser godt ud - god ting den klipper der og støre res skader aldrig, du har jo plads til det ;) held og lykke her fra.
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#7 Sounds nice ... but the pump makes really no noise? However ... i use Noctua NH-D14 @ 500rpm 24/7 and i7-2600K @ 4GHz and +- 70 degrees under full load (i could push it to 4,3 with 500rpm, with temp. under full load @ +- 75 degrees - i know, for some of you might seems high, but such temperatures won`t hurt it at all, so ... who cares?). But i also use low rpm fans (top fan = 300rpm, back fan = 500rpm). So - for a cpu cooler - normal - great one ... will do the job. What about gfx? - i also use custom gpu cooler (500rpm @ idle - up to 800rpm under load), 800rpm while gaming is also very, very silent, for most of the people it`s inaudible. Cpu cooler = +- 550kr. Gpu cooler = +- 550kr. = +- 1100kr. "But good custom WC aint cheap." = ? ;) ... but, some of us don`t care about money, hardware world ain`t that expensive (like cars, houses), even 5-10 k. is not a problem for most of us ... so, why not WC for everybody? Hmm ... maybe ... it`s not always needed? Maybe "normal" great coolers are much more safer (what if pump f***s up in the night, while you are sleeping and PC is on?), what if there`s a leak? ... what if it makes more noise ;) But it`s a free world ... and - as you say - temps. are really great, but you can also get nice results when using normal coolers. But the question is ... will #0 get great results with the components that he has chosen? What are his priorities ("som jeg gerne vil have vandkølet men da jeg aldrig har lavet " - just like that, without thinking about it? ;) Edit: ah, #9 :) Noctua NH-D14 (or some other great "air cpu cooler") @ 500rpm is inaudible and you can OC cpu @ 4-4,5GHz (maybe with some faster speed (rpm)) - but it`s possible. Of course it`s your PC, but first ... define what you want, how you want and why you want. You want WC because you think that air cooler is noisy and won`t allow you OC ... and that`s not true, so the main reason is ... badly defined.
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#12 nu har du gjort mig usikker med vandkøling så tror jeg bruger min noctua nh-d14 ved bare ikke om den kommer til at passe med de ram jeg har købt det skal sidde på et Asus Rampage IV Black Edition med 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum ram ;)
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http://www.noctua.at[...] - nope, it won`t work together. But everything should be ... due to your preferences / needs / priorities :)
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Vandkøling er dyrt ja. Har selv lige fået det i min computer og wow... Det er sku bare federe for at være ærlig og kæft det er stille hvis man vælger low fpi EADS og blæsere (noiseblockers) til dem.
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#14 hvad vil du så gøre i min situation købe vandkøling? #15 sidder og tænker meget på om jeg skal gå hele vejen med vandkøling da jeg allerede har brugt 15.000,- på bundkort, ssd, ram og cpu hvis jeg køber vandkøing kan du måske give mig nogle tips på hvad jeg skal være mere opmærksom på og hvad brands jeg skal købe har et budget på ca 3000 til vandkøling hvis jeg skal købe det ;)
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Alt mit er EKWB i vandblokke og radiatorer er alphacool. Alphacool er de bedste radiatorer til blæsere der snurrer med ca. 750 rpm. Pumpe har jeg den dyre fra swiftech med dobbelt pumpe for når den kører 50% er det, det samme som en pumpe på 100% :-) Det svært at lave vandkøling ordentlig indenfor et budget, men hvis du ønsker en så stille som muligt computer så skal du gå vandkøling. Jeg ved coolerkit.dk har en fremragende service og aquacomputer er også gode..
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" men hvis du ønsker en så stille som muligt computer så skal du gå vandkøling." - neh, depends on priorities (OC, how much OC, how silent shall the PC be, which temperatures somebody accepts). I might have the most silent PC (or one of the most silent PCs) around, and i use normal - air - coolers. What about gfx? reference card - GTX 780 or R9-290 + Prolimatech MK-26: http://ht4u.net[...] You got ASUS mobo - you got ASUS Fan Xpert 2: http://techreport.com[...] = you could customize gpu fan speed ... due to cpu temperature (it works in my case - i use this solution, when playing games - cpu temperature rises ... so rises rpm of fans. I have set it @ 800rpm for my fans = still very quiet, temperatures are fine, +- 75 degrees ... however, depends on gpu load). Of course ... loosing warranty comes into play when installing custom gpu cooler. Or some other solution for gfx - present coolers are also very silent, f.e.: http://www.techpowerup.com[...] So ... first preferences - then proper action / buy.
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#18 tvivler på at dit er stillere end mit er. Jeg har 2 fans på 80mm der er rated 750rpm og TÜV godkendt til 7dB. Så er der 4 fans på 120mm der er rated til 750rpm og TÜV godkendt til 7dB. Pumpen er den største swiftech pumpe(den med 2i1) og jeg kører den på 40ish % styrke og jeg kan overhovedet ikke høre den. Min computer så stille at man er i tvivl hvorvidt den faktisk er tændt. + Jeg har temps på min 4770k på 70deg(skal have volten lidt ned for ved den kan køre det ved lavere volt) ved fuld load i et par timer ved 4.7ghz samt 2x670'er i sli med 52deg i load efter et par timer og min computer DØD stille. intet larmer. En luftkølet computer underlegen og sådan er det bare. Om vandkøling kan betale sig kommer HELT an på den enkelte bruger. Mange vil sikkert ikke sige det er det værd, men jeg synes det er det værd. Bla. fordi computeren ser meget federe ud i stedet for at have et kæmpe monster af en køler i sin computer...
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#12 No offence but your machine is kinda slow and you are using a very low overclock. This is why some of us use Water!! We want low noise and big oc! i am running 4770K on 4.8 ghz and 290 crossfire and i can barely hear my system after several hours of bf4 Water cooling is far more effective than air cooling EOD
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#12 Air cooling can be silent yes, but you arent exactly running high OCs and multi GPUs like most ppl using WC :)
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#20 I`m not here for e-penis ;) EOD = no discussion on mind. If you want to discuss (listening what someone else want to say, analyzing, response, think) ... then we can do it, that`s a discussion, not saying that i`m right and you are wrong. And please read again: " " men hvis du ønsker en så stille som muligt computer så skal du gå vandkøling." - neh, depends on priorities (OC, how much OC, how silent shall the PC be, which temperatures somebody accepts). " There`s no perfect solution for everybody. = my priority is a super silent PC, i don`t need 4,7GHz, 4.0 is just fine for me (which is enough for gaming) and i don`t want fluid in my PC, i want it to be very safe (i got also pop-up alarm set @ 80 degrees cpu, voltage alarm and smoke alarm near my PC ;) ... btw. i got also home alarm and some self defense equipment :-x (i like to feel safe ;) Those are my priorities ;) PC should be ultra silent, i accept temperatures: a) cpu under full load up to 75 degrees, cpu @ idle up to 45 degrees. b) gpu up to 85 degrees. I got +- 70 degrees with i7-2600K @ 4GHz under full load (Prime95 SmallFFT`s) with fans (120mm Noctua NF-S12B) running @ 500rpm constantly (300rpm top case fan, 450rpm back case fan, 500rpm front case fan, on cpu cooler the same fans with 500rpm speed) kedde2005 writes about 750rpm - comparing to Noctuas NF-S12B which i`m using ... this speed is ... huge (for me). I`ve been testing Noctuas few minutes ago @ 800rpm and the noise was awful, for me - like a Jumbo Jet (i`m a huuuuuge silence freak, i can hear the smallest noise). Why am i not aiming @ +- 4,5GHz with temperatures acceptance @ +- 80 degrees max.? ... that`s not my priority (and why isn`t that my priority? - because o won`t ... wait a second ... why am i not OC`ing more? I`ll do it ... gimme some time :) So - for me ... i have found the perfect solution :) ... i thought i have found ... now i`ll try to OC some more ... If you have found one for you - then great, i`m happy for you. Now - in this topic - we`re trying to find the perfect solution for #0 ;) P.S. "i can barely hear my system after several hours of bf4" - kedde2005 did it in a very good way: "Jeg har 2 fans på 80mm der er rated 750rpm og TÜV godkendt til 7dB. Så er der 4 fans på 120mm der er rated til 750rpm og TÜV godkendt til 7dB." ... but - Mamakullo - your subjective opinion means really nothing. Your fans (120mm to compare) might be 500rpm / 700rpm / 1000rpm, we don`t know, everyone`s perception is different. kedde2005 - those Noctuas are rated @ 5dBA, i can really recommend you, now they have been replaced by NF-S12A model, they got ultra silent operating mechanism = with 500rpm you hear nothing, no buzzzz / no squeaky noises. P.S. 120mm fans on my graphic card are running ... you can see it by your own :) http://peecee.dk[...] (Chassis fan 1 and 2 are gpu fans, cpu fan is ... back case fan, i also use fan controller to control rest of fans - 2 cpu cooler fans and front + top case fans ... my ASUS Fan xpert fuc** temperatures, it shows 10 degrees lower than in reality, but it`s not a problem - you just have to keep in in mind when creating a profile = my cpu isn`t 31, it`s 41 degrees now - in reality) - 500rpm for now (idle), up to 61% of it`s speed (120mm Noctua NF-S12B) = 800rpm under load (and i hate that speed, it`s too loud :() ... but it`s GTX 580 (hungry and hot card). I think that ... if i change card for some present one ... i could have those fans running much more quiet :) So ... now ... i`ll try to hit +- 4,5GHz with NH-D14 @ 500rpm :) Wish me good luck ... i know you won`t! :P ... WC bastards ;) Cya ... P.S. as you can see - good air coolers are doing also a nice work. But #7 - las - has, of course, amazing results! (super results) = yes, WC is great, but not everybody needs it - due to preferences.
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Neh, 500rpm is not enough, i`ve hit 4,5GHz @ 1.3v, after 4 minutes of SmallFFT`s 4th core was having 90 degrees (but it wasn`t rising so much ... so i hope it`s limit was somewhere close), 1 and 2 were @ 82, 3rd was having 88. But ... i need ASUS Fan Xpert 2 :D (for custom cpu fan speed / temperature profile, so i could set fans @ +- 700-800rpm after reaching 80 degrees) ... i could make them a profile, unfortunately in ASUS Fan Xpert you can only make one - and i use it for graphic card. But ... i`ll leave the speed :) (50 degrees idle, low load is acceptable for me) - as having 4 cores stressed @ 100% ... practically never happens. I`ll try to go down with voltage, i think my cpu is quite OK for OC, but ... it takes some time, it was a fast test. Thanks guys :) - if not you, i would be still using it @ 4.0 And now #0 has to define his priorities ... but guys ... maybe he really doesn`t need WC? - do you think he`s a silence maniac (#0 are you?). He bought a Corsair 900D and those fans are operating @ 1100 or 1650rpm (they are AF120...L) - not much info about it. NH-D14 @ 900rpm or 1100rpm = nice OC ... i know that great WC is amazing (#7 i remember your comment ;) ... but ... you also know it - that not everyone needs it (up to someones priorities). Got 45 degrees now (idle - low cpu usage ... after downtemperaturing from Prime95 test few minutes ago) ... thanks again :) P.S. actually it`s 1.31v as mobo ... adds 0.01v under load, @ idle - low usage it`s 1.296v.
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